Category: Wild vs Domestic

  • Lessons learned from our experiences letting people adopt Roof Rats as pets

    Lessons learned from our experiences letting people adopt Roof Rats as pets

    1. We are very experienced at handling these rats, have areas set up for them and protocols that we follow without even thinking. So, the rats cooperate with us even when they might not cooperate with other people. It’s like that Crocodile Hunter guy: he makes picking up a deadly snake look easy, but most people would get bitten. Most people instinctively understand this about snakes, but they don’t realize that Roof Rats are not the same as Norway Rats and probably never will be.
    2. Because we are used to their behavior, we don’t realize that other people might find it upsetting or scary. The rats in my office hide, jump, run, climb to the ceiling, and otherwise try to escape and avoid me…it’s all just “crazy roof rat” stuff that literally I see every day and mostly just ignore at this point. Because I know my office is escape proof and, at the end of the day, they will always end up back in their cage so it doesn’t matter. But if someone doesn’t have a “rat safe” play area, and it’s the first time they’ve experienced this, I guess it freaks people out. Too many people call me in a panic the first time they get their rats home, because the rat’s escaped and they don’t know what to do. My rats “escape” every single day, and every single evening they are right back in their cages. Its something that’s become part of my daily routine, normal and expected. Which has really desensitized me to other people’s subject initial experience with them.
    3. Although almost all Roof Rats have the potential to be anyone’s good pet, they are all unique individuals, and some are much more brave, outgoing and accepting of strangers than others, while others will require more patience and willingness to put up with initial “bad behavior” prior to getting to that point. As I mentioned, this is something we are very used to, and, because our lives revolve around breeding and keeping these guys as pets, we are set up to deal with their whole range of behaviors. Of course, I prefer it when they calmly sit on my shoulder and eat a nut while I give them face rubs, but I am used to the fact that I might need to put up with some misbehavior prior to that. I’ve been down that same road so many times that I always see the “good” inside the rat and focus on bringing that out. I celebrate the fact that, eventually, I am able to prove to each individual that I’m actually a nice person and they can safely trust and even love me.
    4. That said, some Roof Rats will be “easier” than others. If someone is experienced with this species, and not set up to cope with potential “bad behavior”, they would be much better off with a more well behaved individual that is more trusting and open to strangers than average. All else being equal, older rats tend to be calmer and more trusting than younger rats for two reasons: a. Young Roof Rats know they are every other animal’s favorite snack, so their senses and reactions are hair trigger to avoid being eaten. b. Older Roof Rats have experience being handled by friendly humans, and have hopefully learned that we are more likely to feed them than eat them. All else being equal, male rats are calmer and more trusting than females. Size and testosterone makes them braver. Brave rats are more willing to come out of their cage, accept treats, and run up your arm. Brave rats are also less likely to nip out of fear. Males are also lazier and more food orientated. They are more likely to come when called and sit on your shoulder and let you pet them. Therefore, they tend to be better “starter Roof Rats” for people than females, all else being equal. Females can be great pets (Roofy was female, and she was one of the best Roof Rats we’ve ever had) but, statistically speaking, your odds are better with males than females. And with adults instead of youngsters.
    5. Because of everything we’ve learned, we recommend the following: a. People should not have younger rats or females shipped to them. We will generally only approve shipping adult males, unless the person requesting them can justify their request (eg., they they want to breed them and are qualified to do so.) b. Locals can get younger rats, but we still strongly recommend adults. c. If you visit us, handle both males and females, and strongly prefer our females, we will let you adopt them. Keep in mind that you might want to exchange them for males, later, so if you had a long drive, we recommend that you take males instead of females. d. Unless someone gets very calm adult males, we strongly recommend that they create a “Roof Rat Safe” play area prior to taking them home. This area needs to be escape proof, and have no inaccessible hiding places. You need to assume that your Roof Rat will run around, jump, climb, and squeeze itself into any space big enough to enter every single time you let them out of their cage, and you need to ensure that you can get them back into their cage when playtime is over, no matter what. If you are not set up and ready to handle this, having them as pets will not be enjoyable. Basically, if you can safely walk around our backyard with the rat on your shoulder, you are OK without a play area at home: if not, do not that that rat home with you unless you have one. Seriously.

    Errol the roof rat

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  • Roof Rats are a Solitary Social Species

    Roof Rats are a Solitary Social Species

    Roof Rats are very similar physically and behaviourally to Norway rats. This can be both a blessing and a curse. It’s certainly helpful that their dietary requirements are almost the same, so they can eat the same food. They can also mostly use the same cages, water bottles, hammocks and even toys (although they might abuse them differently.) They are both highly intelligent, curious and playful.

    But Norway rats and Roof Rats are different kinds of rats

    Apparently, both Norway rats and Roof rats are “social” animals. But…are Roof Rats really social in the way we think they are? How do the social behaviors and needs of a Roof Rat compare to that of a Norway rat?

    We don’t know enough about Roof Rat social behavior

    Most of the information we have about the social behavior of rats comes from Norway rats. The social behavior of Norway rats, both in the wild and cages, has been extensively researched. Based on this research, and the collective wisdom of the the rat owning community, rules have been developed for keeping Norway rats that are effectively beyond debate at this point: rats are social animals, and they need cage mates to truly be happy. Anyone that keeps solitary rats will be advised that they need to change because they are abusing their unhappy pet, and they need to find it a friend or it will be miserable.

    I don’t personally know for sure if all Norway rats want and need to have cage mates. But what I can say with almost 100% certainty is:

    Not all Roof Rats actually want to have cage mates

    have seen a lot of evidence that Roof rats are often preferentially solitary. And, sometimes, keeping them with cagemates can cause problems that folks used to Norway rats would never experience and would find shocking. For example, it is accepted wisdom that if rats are properly “introduced”, they can eventually bond and form stable, longtime friendships. After which, the owners can relax and be confident that they will happily enjoy each other’s company for the rest of their lives, without any danger that they might one day harm each other. And, with Norway rats, that may well be true.

    However, Roof Rats seem to be different. I’ve seen cage mates that have been together for a year or more, apparent “friends”, even littermates that have literally lived together their entire lives, turn on each other overnight without any warning. The only sign would be that one morning one will be injured. Sometimes quite badly. I suspect that some roof rats don’t have the same instinct to form long term social bonds, so they can decide one day they don’t like their former “friend“ and want them gone. Immediately.

    This can happen with both males and females. Although it is more common with males. Males will more commonly reject other males, but be OK with females, while females may reject either sex. Once a roof rat starts rejecting cagemates, this change in behavior is often persistent: they may now start to immediately attack other rats in their territory without hesitation as soon as they become aware of them.

    A roof rat can cause a surprising amount of injuries very quickly

    We’ve tried very hard to find good cage mates for all of our roof rats because we always thought it was “best” for them. And sometimes they do seem to be happy: they groom each other, sleep together, even seem to play together. We let them out, and they follow each other around like they enjoy each other’s company.

    I wish I could honestly say that all of our roof rats are happy with cage mates like they are “supposed” to be. But some aren’t, no matter what I think is best for them. And it breaks my heart when they suddenly start hurting their former “friends.” In fact, one of the signs that a male roof rat will be very successful at breeding is that he doesn’t want other males in his cage. Males that can always accept other male cage mates are often very bad at breeding, and sometimes they are ironically bullied (even injured) by females.

    Female Roof Rats can be more aggressive than males

    So, I think that the desire to hold solitary territory is something instinctive to many Roof Rats, and it is only a “problem” because it is not convenient for their human “owners.” They are perfectly fine with that and may prefer it. We are trying to impose living conditions on them that they would not experience in nature, and not all of them can adapt to it. Some will fight against it, and against the “friends” that we put in their cages.

    More research is needed about the social behavior of Roof Rats

    We simply do not know enough about the social behavior of Roof Rats, and it is wrong to assume that we can generalize and apply what we know about a different species, Norway rats, to them.

    The process of domestication is not just changing a species to suit our purposes: we also need to change our own understanding and expectations to suit the needs of that species. If an animal isn’t behaving as expected, perhaps it’s our expectations that have the problem, not the animal. Some aspects of a species behavior cannot easily be changed. Part of the joy of keeping a companion animal is learning what is unique and special about it, and adapting yourself to that, rather than insisting that the animal adapt itself to you.

    We must give our pet Roof Rats what is truly best for them

    Roof Rats are different than Norway rats. Sometimes, those differences are annoying and inconvenient, especially if you were expecting them to behave like Norway rats. But it’s not a Roof rat’s “fault” that it is a different species: it just is. As a future pet owner, it’s your job to learn what those differences are before you accept responsibility for that life, and, once you do, to continue to learn and adapt yourself to that animal for as long as it is dependant on you. I can tell you from personal experience that Roof Rats can be wonderful and rewarding companion animals, but you will need to meet them halfway to ensure mutual happiness!

    Errol the roof rat

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  • Orphaned Baby Wild Rat update

    Orphaned Baby Wild Rat update

    A lot of great things to report today!

    At first, we were having trouble feeding our little rescued baby rat, but then we discovered that the dropper from a Japanese candy kit worked perfectly.

    Also, we got a special heating pad which could maintain a perfect, constant temperature of 30 degrees celcius, made a safe and secure place for it on our sofa with an old shirt, and we learned how to wipe it’s behind to stimulate it to urinate and defecate.

    Finally, we got some Mini-Miracle Nipples, which perfectly fit the baby rat’s little mouth, allowing it to suckle more or less naturally.

    As you can see, our little girl (we think it is a girl!) is doing just great.  It is lively and alert, growing stronger every day.  We are very hopeful that it will survive and even start eating solid food in a few days (it already has little teeth!)  We are not yet sure if we will release it into the wild once it is big enough, because we need to be sure that it can survive on it’s own in the wild.  Perhaps we will keep it as a special pet.

    This began a few days earlier, when someone found them and asked if we could help. The story carries on with the escape artists.

  • Hand feeding orphaned wild baby rats

    Hand feeding orphaned wild baby rats

    Today, someone found 2 orphaned wild baby rats whose mother was poisoned.

    He called us and asked us if we wanted to care for them.  At first, we weren’t sure we could do it, but we decided that we couldn’t allow those little babies to die without even trying.

    Here is a video of me feeding one of them with a syringe of milk.

    They both were very weak and skinny, and were suffering from hypothermia, so I need to cradle them and keep them warm while I’m feeding them.  I’m still not sure that they will survive, but I’ll try my best!

    Check back later to see their progress.

    I have really sad news: both babies were gaining strength, but one of them was not as willing to accept milk by hand as the other.  It seemed to be more skittish and fearful.

    I put them both overnight in a little cage with a reptile rock to keep them warm, and surrounded them with soft litter and covered the cage in an old shirt.  This morning, when I woke up, I discovered that the fearful one had died.  I think maybe it had moved too far away from the reptile rock, and didn’t stay warm enough.  Or, perhaps it hadn’t been eating enough milk.  Fortunately, the other one is still alive and eating so I hope I can save it.

    It is always very sad when any living thing dies.  But I am especially sad about this little baby that I held in my hands and watched it take milk.  I’m going to miss it.

    What happened next: we finally worked out how to feed them, and then they turned into escape artists.